Wah, erick lagi sebal, marah dan mendidih......

 

 

Apakah dengan mengatakan kebenaran kepadamu aku telah menjadi musuhmu?

They are similiar with the fundamentalist. Bener gak english gw ?

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

JF, knapa ga PD sama english lo?

Fundamentalist somehow have a solid ground to be fundamental.

Things that I really don't like in our situations here lately .....

He is so arrogant.  When he said sorry, he has forgotten what the sorry word was for. He didn't want to be corrected.

But then again, this is just a net. I was so mad, but it means nothing for him. Maybe in saying sorry, everything become right, and because sorry is "gratuite", He may go in peace.
 

For your info, Kristen evangelist, diamerika merupakan sebuah aliran. Mereka sering diidentikan dgn kristen fundamentalis. Semoga kita jadi nyambung. Mungkin yg kamu maksud evangelis ya ?

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

I think you are really angry and disappointed...

Me too.. Because english is better to express my heart than another language..

not only for express my heart, but also for communication to my family..

because my first language was english, not indonesian..

when i was 6, I began to speak indonesia in my elementary school.....

hehehe.... so until now i speak 2 languages.. wkwkwkw...

nulis blog ah...

-anak kecil berbicara, didengarkah?-

Ha...ha...

Who did you mean Mr. Erick?

Really evangelical christians or just .....???

Well, related to your post about who is the most arrogant,

Someday I heard a sermon of a servant of God (he is the most preacher, theolog and servant of God whom i admire most) when he preached about Jesus Christ at the X-mas time celebration on TV.

I paraphrased here some of his sentences.

Anyone knows to whom these statements are addressed by the preacher???

There's one for the evangelical christians

1. When  I asked the "........." about what the biggest work that Jesus Christ had done when he was in the world, they might answer "...........ect" by refering to John 3:16"
2. There's again said  what the biggest work that Jesus had done was healing people, getting free those who were in the bondage of suffering, lifting the Have Not and letting down the Have"........."refer to Matt ....???
3. The other said, " what Jesus had done was making the believers and church as the centre of the country so that the world is submitted to us"
4. The last one stated "what the biggest work that Jesus Christ had done was delivering and preaching the Kingdom of God, the main point of Gospel"

Well, the last one(4) is not the answer.

(seruan Yohanes Pembabtis sampai Tuhan Yesus sendiri adalah "bertobatlah kamu sebab Kerajaan Allah sudah dekat" again and again, bergema terus teriakan itu... bahkankah sampai sekarang? karena Yesus yang memberitakan Kerajaan-Nya maka kita bisa seperti ini)

Don't give me somehing to guess please,

I do not even know which phrase is your opinion. In my understanding, you just agree to the 4th. statement of a preacher that you admired most.

Help me to see as clear as your undertanding, why you wrote this

"Well, the last one(4) is not the answer."

???

I am ready to learn.

 

Des14, delivering and preaching the Kingdom of God, ....Well, I am agree with that!

 

Menyebut Evangelical Christian / Kristen Injili mempunyai scope yang sangat luas. Mayoritas gereja sekrang ini menyebut dirinya Injili sekalipun ( tidak semua ) tak pernah mengabarkan Injil. Ada yang tak mau disebut Injili namun dalam prakteknya bisa digolonglan dalam gereja Injili.

Di Indonesia, anggota PGI sering dikenal sebagai kumpulan gereja non Injili ( meskipun ada anggota gereaja Injili yang menjadi anggota ) sedangkan Gereja Injili ( menyebut dirinya ) mempunyai wadah tersendiri.

Oleh sebab itu Kristen yang Injili sangatlah luas cakupan dan definisinya, masing masing orang Kristen ( baca : gereja ) mempunyai definisi masing masing.

So, brother you cried out loud in the middle of big ocean although some friends listening and caring

GBU

 

 

Apakah dengan mengatakan kebenaran kepadamu aku telah menjadi musuhmu?

oh... I am sorry

I'm just on line now in SS, I am quite busy dealing with my study at campus.

I beg your pardon guys.

Well,

It seems that i did a mistake on writing "the last one (4) is not the answer". It should be "well, the last one (4) is not the answer?"

I just meant to offer a question for you all to think and choose.

You're right Erick, My choice is the forth one. It's clear since the next sentence i wrote supported my choice (my choice (4) is more ......and so on)

Yaphs....For me that was the biggest, the most important work of Jesus Christ when He was in the world, to deliver and preach the Kingdom of God. By that, the salvation misssion is accomplished.

As the consequency, we today also should bring the message for the world. I mean, don't preach something other which doesn't correspond to the main point of the Bible and of course the will and the plan of God. That's all.

In the world today, many denominations tend to bring the other messages of the Bible, such as 'healing service, miracle gospel, prosperity gospel, social gospel etc"

For King Heart:

If we always base our argument that everyone (read: church) has their own concept and definition, then we cannot finish. My point is "Study the Bible n the truth with scrutiny, with accurate understanding". Kristen injili (evangelical christian) in my opinion here is "those who preach the word of God who mostly focus on biblical but the comprehension of the scrutiny of the Bible is less, unfortunately, they are quite arrogant and is not ready to accept correction". In this case I think Mr. Erick has more concept and clear whe he stated, "Evangelical Christians are the most  arrogant". I cannot explain further for now, perharps next time.

That's all for now. Gbu

Des14, noted.

About domination, I have enough debate, discussion or war of written words in my christian mailling group. It never comes to a finish line with an aggreement.

So better keep it that way. It the way it is. (This is from my own point of view)

Demi nasionalisme dan daerahisme serta menara babelisme, usul gw pakailah bahasa indonesia atau bahasa batak. Supaya gak percuma penterjemahan alkitab ke berbagai bahasa, yang SANGAT MENDUKUNG PENGINJILAN. Hahaha...

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

Billy graham dan anaknya adalah aliran Kristen Evangelist/Fundamentalist. Jelas mereka menentang obama, mereka adalah penasehat spiritual Bush Sr & Bush Jr. Kristen Evangelis bisa dibilang Radikal atau garis keras, BUT CARANYA CANTIK, TIDAK VULGAR.

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

Ima da eda, ai marpasir pasir do au marhata batak. Songoni do my english, little bit sandy. Alai hu parsiajari na boi, even it's only to understand what people say. Molo to talk, ya like that lah.

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

Irak digempur, afganistan digempur, israel n palestina dimaintain tetap bertikai. Gw gak terlalu tahu obama, tapi kayaknya dia penganut pluralisme. Ya kita lihat aza nanti, apakah dia penganut pluralisme. Pluralisme kayaknya paham new age movement.

Jesus Freaks,

"Live X4J, Die As A Martyr"

-SEMBAHLAH BAPA DALAM ROH KUDUS & DALAM YESUS KRISTUS-

Semoga berguna, ini ada artikel tentang Sejarah Fundamentalisme Kristen ala Amerika Serikat.

http://onisur.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/fundamentalisme-kristen/

 

bedanya evangelical sama born-again tu apa??